Participant Profile
Fumika Hideshima
Other : Radio DJOther : NarratorFaculty of Law GraduateKeio University alumni (1998, Faculty of Law). Debuted as a radio DJ while still a university student. Active in a wide range of fields, primarily as a DJ for radio stations, as well as a narrator for television, film, and commercials.
Fumika Hideshima
Other : Radio DJOther : NarratorFaculty of Law GraduateKeio University alumni (1998, Faculty of Law). Debuted as a radio DJ while still a university student. Active in a wide range of fields, primarily as a DJ for radio stations, as well as a narrator for television, film, and commercials.
Interviewer: Minoru Sugaya
Other : Professor EmeritusInterviewer: Minoru Sugaya
Other : Professor Emeritus
2020/06/15
An Experiment in "Reading" + "Rock"
──Ms. Hideshima, you received the Individual Broadcast Award at the 74th Agency for Cultural Affairs National Arts Festival in the first year of Reiwa for your reading on the program "Bungo ROCK! ~Reading Aloud to Keep You Awake: Kenji Miyazawa Edition." Congratulations.
Thank you. This was a reading program broadcast on Nippon Broadcasting System last year. I read Kenji Miyazawa's "The Restaurant of Many Orders" and "The Nighthawk Star" in a one-hour program, and it has a slightly unusual concept called "Reading aloud to keep you awake."
As we become adults, we lose the opportunity to have stories read to us, but the characteristic of radio as a medium is that because you cannot see, the listeners themselves have the pleasure of letting their imaginations run wild in their own heads. Furthermore, this attempt was about seeing what kind of interesting chemical reaction would occur if we fused rock music with the reading, rather than just reading it straight.
──That sounds interesting.
I was truly happy to receive the award and have my reading recognized. However, although it is called an "Individual Award," I personally feel it is an award received by the team. The program would not exist without the production staff, everyone involved in various departments, and above all, the listeners who tune in to the radio. I am simply full of gratitude.
──What do you feel was created from the "fusion of Kenji Miyazawa's works and rock"?
Rock music inherently has a strong message. For example, whether it's John Lennon or U2, there is a desire to change society in some way. I thought that kind of stance and the thoughts put into the work would overlap with Kenji Miyazawa.
Kenji's works are often in the form of children's stories or for children, but I think there are things that resonate more as you get older. For example, in "The Restaurant of Many Orders," the selfishness of humans and their tyranny toward nature are depicted. The story begins with a conversation between two men who have come to hunt, saying, "I don't care what it is, I just want to go 'bang bang' as soon as possible," but from there the positions are reversed, and it becomes a structure where they are terrified that they might eventually be eaten themselves.
It's a warning to humans that we should not forget our respect for nature and should be more humble—a message saying, "Don't get ahead of yourselves." Because of the times we live in now, I think there are things that strike a deeper chord.
──I see. I was listening with a strange sensation, feeling a sense of unity between your quiet reading and the tremendous power of rock.
The director, Hiroshi Omura, who I have worked with on reading programs before, was wonderful. During the recording, he directed me freely, saying, "First, please try it however you like," and after that, we fused the rock songs into it.
It was a series of fun trial and error. For example, even for a single line, we would try things like "increase the spitefulness by 50%" or conversely, "let's try reading it a bit more flatly," and we'd get excited saying "This is it!" or go back saying "That wasn't right." It wasn't just me alone; it was like a process of fitting pieces together while exploring through many exchanges on-site.
The DJ I Admired in America
──Ms. Hideshima, you experienced life in America before entering university. When did you first encounter radio?
I moved to America with my family when I was in the 6th grade of elementary school due to my father's work. I was given my own room for the first time there, and since I didn't understand English at all at first, I started turning on the radio in my room because I wanted to get my ears used to the speed of English. That was my first encounter with radio.
Especially at night, when I felt lonely in my room and couldn't sleep, thinking, "I have school tomorrow. I don't understand English. I have so much homework and I'm not finished at all," I would turn on the radio.
At that time, I never dreamed that I would become a radio DJ. However, when I was lonely, I felt, "A person's voice can be so warm." I think that feeling of warmth is the core experience that has allowed me to continue my work in radio until now.
──Compared to Japan, the number of radio stations in America is incomparably large. Are there any radio programs that still remain in your memory?
It doesn't exist anymore, but there was a radio station called WQCD that specialized in jazz, and I really admired a woman named Maria, the DJ who hosted the night program on that station. She had a wonderfully deep voice. At first, I couldn't understand the English, but gradually my ears got used to it, and I began to understand things like "Sunny, partly cloudy" or "Yankees won."
The voice of a person heard right by my ear was a presence that provided a sense of security and comfort, even if I had never seen their face. At that time, there was no internet or SNS, and even if I was alone in my room and not connected to anyone, I felt that "radio is different." Hearing a voice on a live broadcast made me feel that even if the location was different, a real person was there at this same time, sharing the same moment, and it put my heart at ease.
──Did Maria's DJ program have a major influence on the direction you took?
Yes. Since the music was jazz, it was a very urban and stylish radio station. I also had an admiration for mature women and thought that someday I wanted to become a person with that kind of atmosphere. However, I was just listening as a single listener, and I didn't think at all that I wanted to do radio myself.
──After that, you entered Keio Academy of New York.
When my father's term ended and it was time to return to Japan, I was the only one at the timing of entering high school, and Keio Academy of New York had just opened. So my family returned first, and I entered the Academy, which had a dormitory.
Every day was fun. Since I was in the second graduating class, there was an exciting atmosphere among both teachers and students of "Let's build this school ourselves from now on!" Students gathered from all over the world. There were kids raised in France, Abu Dhabi (UAE), and Brazil. Each had a very strong personality, and I received a lot of stimulation.
I think the time I studied the most in my life was during my years at Keio Academy of New York. It was tough. The curriculum allowed me to obtain a high school diploma from New York State and a Japanese high school diploma at the same time, so I studied so hard during exam periods that I ran a fever. It might have been a "wisdom fever" (laughs).
Debuting During University
──After graduation, you returned to Japan and entered the Faculty of Law, Department of Political Science.
It sounds like a joke now, but when I was a high school student, I wanted to be a diplomat. I imagined a job flying around the world and chose the Department of Political Science. However, after entering, I became interested in the media industry and was drawn to the Newspaper Research Institute at the time (now the Institute for Journalism, Media & Communication Studies). In that process, I began to remember how much I really loved radio.
──Ms. Hideshima, you joined the Newspaper Research Institute as a member of the 6th class of my seminar.
The reason I wanted to join your seminar was out of curiosity about how the media industry could be studied as an academic discipline. After actually joining, I thought, "I see, this is how media like television and newspapers influence each other." The internet was also starting to enter the scene, and it was a stimulating time feeling that the world was going to change significantly.
You once took me to the site of a news program, didn't you?
──At that time, I often took seminar students to the studios of major television stations in Tokyo.
I was moved, thinking, "Wow! Is this being broadcast nationwide from here right now?" I think that was my first experience at a television station.
The first time I was able to have my own regular program on a radio station was when I was a student in your seminar. You were very helpful to me then as well.
──From around your third year of university, you were going all the way to Osaka to work as a DJ for an FM station. You already wanted to have a career related to radio back then, didn't you?
FM802, a very popular station in Osaka, holds DJ auditions every year. I was lucky enough to pass, and I debuted with a late-night program as one of the "four new DJs for this year." Being able to see the field here, I made up my mind that if such an interesting world existed, I wanted to enter it and work hard.
──I still remember you saying back then, "I won't do general job hunting; doing DJ work in various places like this is my job hunting."
Unfortunately, the program in Osaka ended after one year, but fortunately, I then received an offer for a regular program from J-WAVE in Tokyo. That coincided with my graduation from university, and I began to have the title of radio DJ. From there, I started with the mindset of "Now, I'm going to work hard as a full-time DJ." I made many mistakes. There was no particular training, so they just said, "Now, sit in front of the microphone and please talk about whatever you like." In that sense, they let me do it very freely.
Supported by Listeners
──I was watching your success from the sidelines, but you really gained a lot of attention with the program "GROOVE LINE" on J-WAVE with Piston Nishizawa starting in 2000. How many years did you do that?
I was involved for 10 years. Mr. Nishizawa taught me many things. J-WAVE had a satellite studio in the HMV that used to be in Shibuya Center-gai, and it was a broadcast from a glass-walled public studio. It was a style where people could watch us talking, and we invited various guests.
──What is the thing you remember most?
I was so happy when we welcomed Janet Jackson, whom I had admired since I was in America. A superstar I had been listening to since I was a child was actually sitting next to me. Seeing her nodding and laughing at my questions made me wonder if it was really reality.
If I think back on what supported me during those 10 years, it was definitely the listeners. Even now, I receive comments like "I used to listen to you" at various work sites, and some people say, "I once went to see you at HMV Shibuya." Radio is a medium based on the premise that you cannot see the other person, but "GROOVE LINE" was a place where that was not the case.
Even my classmates from Keio would come on a date after work and say "Long time no see," and it was an experience where I could truly feel that I was being supported by everyone.
──From around that time, you gradually expanded the scope of your work to include television narration and more.
This was also possible because of radio; I received various offers from people who had heard the program.
I learned that there is such a demand for voice work in the world—commercials, voice acting, audio guides for museums and planetariums, lectures—and I learned the methodologies and ways of interacting with people at each site. The experience of working across genres was brought back to my home ground of radio and became my bone, blood, and flesh.
Radio Where You Can Feel a Human Presence
──It is said that we are in the era of IoT, but radio is a limited medium that unilaterally provides only audio. As someone who continues to be dedicated to radio, what kind of path do you want to aim for in the future?
New forms of media are constantly emerging, but I think radio has a strength precisely because it is simply "sound only." You can do it while doing something else, and as people often say, "only the ears are free." For example, the compatibility between SNS and radio is very good and they don't compete. There is not only a vertical connection between us as broadcasters and the listeners, but listeners often connect horizontally with each other on Twitter and other platforms while listening to the same program.
I think there is still a lot of "blank space" in radio. In other words, each individual recipient can freely do what they want to do along with the radio. Students have long studied while listening to late-night broadcasts, and now there is also the enjoyment of listening to the radio while checking SNS. We on the radio side are also exploring how to exist as audio content that is "more fun when listened to with something else."
──That's true.
In addition to the high degree of freedom in collaboration with other media, there is also the pure enjoyment of radio alone. People can imagine various things and enjoy them through their imagination. Even if everything becomes "visualized," I believe the enjoyment of imagining things precisely because they cannot be seen will not be lost.
Especially now, due to the influence of the new coronavirus, there are times when we feel more anxious than necessary about things we cannot see. But because we cannot see, we can also feel positive or expand our imagination through a bright voice.
For example, I myself feel every day as a listener how much lighter my heart becomes just from someone's voice saying "Good morning." I believe that power of imagination will absolutely never disappear as long as we are human.
The first time I thought radio was good and that human voices were good was the presence of someone being there, even though I couldn't see them. That raw presence is something that only occurs if a person is definitely there. Technology will continue to advance in the future, but I believe this is the vital heart of radio.
So, this is starting to sound like a program's ending greeting (laughs), but there is also "radiko," a free service where you can listen to the radio on your smartphone or computer. When you are tired or lonely, please try switching it on. I would be happy to share bright imaginations and a relaxing time with you in the future.
──I think the conclusion is that "Fumika Hideshima is a DJ for life," and I have heard a very good story. I look forward to your continued success. Thank you very much for today.
(Recorded online on April 9, 2020)
*Affiliations and titles are as of the time of publication.