Keio University

Takaki Kato: Leading Japanese Basketball as a Referee

Participant Profile

  • Takaki Kato

    Other : Professional RefereeFaculty of Environment and Information Studies GraduatedGraduate School of Health Management Graduated

    Keio University alumni (2011 Faculty of Policy Management, 2013 Graduate School of Health Management Master's). After working for a city bank, he became active as a Japan Basketball Association (JBA) certified referee. In September of this year, he became Japan's first JBA-certified professional referee.

    Takaki Kato

    Other : Professional RefereeFaculty of Environment and Information Studies GraduatedGraduate School of Health Management Graduated

    Keio University alumni (2011 Faculty of Policy Management, 2013 Graduate School of Health Management Master's). After working for a city bank, he became active as a Japan Basketball Association (JBA) certified referee. In September of this year, he became Japan's first JBA-certified professional referee.

  • Interviewer: Toshiro Otani

    Faculty of Nursing and Medical Care Professor

    Interviewer: Toshiro Otani

    Faculty of Nursing and Medical Care Professor

2017/11/01

From a Knee Injury to Refereeing

──Kato-kun, you won the first Best Referee Award in the B.League that started last year, and I heard you recently signed a contract as Japan's first professional referee certified by the JBA (Japan Basketball Association). I think this is a landmark event for the Japanese basketball world.

Kato

Thank you very much.

──You came to Keio from Fukuoka University Ohori High School, an elite basketball school. What were your middle and high school days like?

Kato

My middle school was just an ordinary public school, and we were one step away from making it to the Aichi Prefecture tournament. I was really lucky to get into Ohori, but once I was there, I was constantly overwhelmed by the difference in level. It was a place I felt I could never reach.

──You had peers like Yusuke Sakai (who went from Ohori to excel at Keio), right?

Kato

That's right. He was truly a star among stars. I was more of a second- or third-string player, and since my knee injuries had already started back then, I couldn't really perform as a player as much as I wanted. As a team, we were in the top eight at the Inter-High School Championships and finished third in the Winter Cup, though.

──Did you get injured in high school?

Kato

The first time was in high school. However, at that time, I didn't get an MRI or anything; I just kind of managed to get by.

──Even so, you intended to play as a player when you entered university, but the injury worsened?

Kato

Yes. After entering university, I felt something was wrong and got an MRI. It turned out only one-third of my ACL (Anterior Cruciate Ligament) was left, and eventually, I even damaged my meniscus.

At that exact time, the team was looking to dispatch someone to the Gakuren (University Basketball Federation). I wanted to continue as a player, but I changed my mindset, thinking that building a network there might be a way to stay involved with basketball for a long time, so I retired as a player. That's when I put on the referee uniform and started refereeing.

──In a sense, that's where a new page in your life turned.

Kato

That's true. At that time, Professor Otani, you weren't the director yet. If you, a renowned knee specialist, had become the director one year earlier, my knee might have been completely cured, and the current me might not exist (laughs).

──By the way, where did you acquire the basics of refereeing?

Kato

I took a training course for certified referees at the Gakuren. When I went there, there was no successor in the referee department. A senior said to me, "If you're from Ohori and now at Keio, you should be able to referee, right?" I borrowed a whistle from a fellow referee and started in the summer of my second year of university. That was the start.

──But you must have had some interest in refereeing, right?

Kato

My advisor in middle school was a certified referee. He kept a rulebook right behind the driver's seat of his car. I remember looking at it while traveling and seeing things like, "Oh, there's a disqualifying foul in basketball that leads to immediate ejection. This is how you do the signal."

I might have had an interest in the world of referees just by watching their behavior and wondering what kind of world it was.

──Do you have any trouble with your knee now while refereeing?

Kato

To be honest, I do. Referees also have to pivot and change direction at top speed. In fact, I went to Europe recently, and an NBA point guard would steal the ball and go on a fast break.

I have to outrun him and get deep behind the line quickly, so it's quite physically demanding. I have to take proper care of my knee by icing it after every game.

A Master's Thesis That Is Still Useful Today

──After graduating from your undergraduate program, why did you come to the graduate school (Graduate School of Health Management) instead of getting a job?

Kato

The main reason was that while I was at the Gakuren, I got a taste of basketball management, and I had a sense of the problem: how could we manage basketball—which hadn't yet seen the light of day compared to other sports—in a more positive way?

──In graduate school, you came to my lab and received guidance on qualitative research from Professor Shigeko Saiki-Craighill, and eventually wrote your thesis on the theme of "Decision-making Processes of Basketball Referees." Actually, one of the things I wanted to ask most today is whether the process of writing this thesis was useful afterward (laughs).

Kato

If I hadn't done this research, I probably wouldn't have been able to become an international referee or an S-class referee today.

──Really?

Kato

It was truly helpful. The methodology of refereeing that I found for myself by interviewing Japan's top referees is so useful that I can still use those research results on the court today. I still share the essence summarized from those interview results with my partners in pre-game meetings.

I still think it was good that I did this research, and for example, if I could generalize this more, I think I could give back to even more people.

──That's great to hear. And after graduation, you got a job at a megabank. For the four years until you left the megabank, you were doing referee work as a so-called "second career," but you became an international referee relatively quickly, didn't you?

Kato

It was my second year as a working professional. I got my A-license the year I joined the bank, and the following year, I became an AA-license (now S-license) holder and an international referee.

Situations Where a Referee Is Needed

──During your time as a banker, you must have struggled to balance it with being a top referee?

Kato

When I first joined the bank, the level and number of games I officiated weren't that high, and I was only sent overseas about once a year, so I didn't feel much difficulty in balancing the two. However, it became tough once I started handling the top league.

The level of attention on basketball increased overwhelmingly, and within that, the quality level required of referees also rose. So, before officiating one game, I would watch more than 10 videos of that team's matches to input the characteristics of the team and players into my head. I would go into the game with a plan, thinking, "In this team, with these members, this kind of tactic is possible, so I should position myself like this to referee.". Since I usually handle games on Saturdays and Sundays, I spend the five weekdays researching by watching about 10 to 15 game videos.

When that happens, I absolutely need time to watch the games. My days consisted of finishing work, coming back from the gym, watching two to three games while eating dinner, and then going to work the next morning. I felt that balancing the two was quite exhausting.

──By the way, you're in much better shape than when you were an active player (laughs).

Kato

Giving a solid impression through training is actually very important. You don't need a referee for obvious fouls or obvious violations.

A referee is needed where the respective teams cannot settle things themselves. If we blow the whistle, someone will feel they were "called," and if we make a no-call judgment, someone will feel they "didn't get the call." Dissatisfaction is bound to arise there.

In response to that, there are situations where simply blowing the whistle correctly is difficult. Whether it's right or wrong, it's natural for someone to be dissatisfied. So, while making correct judgments, elements like "when to blow," "consistency with previous plays," and "how to express yourself and communicate to move the game forward after blowing" become necessary.

Especially to proceed with international matches smoothly, the referee's physique and facial expressions become very important.

──Furthermore, in international matches, there are even spectators who might not understand English.

Kato

Exactly. For example, if the gyoji (referee) of sumo, a traditional Japanese sport, were a foreigner, what kind of impression would the audience have?

It's the same. When I stand on an overseas court, I think it's natural for the audience to potentially think, "Wait, does Japan even play basketball? Is it okay?" Furthermore, no matter how correct the judgment is, if that person looks scrawny and weak, it won't be convincing.

──Looking at photos of you overseas, even when a very tough player covered in tattoos says, "What are you doing?" you don't back down at all (laughs). You can't win just by being right.

Kato

That's right. The fact that judgments are always correct is, conversely, becoming a given. Especially now that it's an era where people can enjoy basketball through video, it's important to make correct judgments while also gaining acceptance on the floor.

Mr. Kato during a match

It's Better to Be a Background Figure on the Court

──How was the B.League Best Referee award decided?

Kato

It's a vote by coaches, players, and the media.

──You received the most votes from the people on the floor. I think it's wonderful that you are recognized by the coaches, players, and media who usually appeal to the referees.

Kato

I think it's truly a grateful thing. In terms of attracting attention, I also feel responsibility and pressure.

──Looking at various articles about this professional contract, many say it's an "evaluation of achievements," which I suppose means you've officiated many international matches. I think the JBA is also looking ahead to the Tokyo Olympics.

Kato

Being the Best Referee or a professional referee is an honor, and of course, I'm happy, but when we stand on the court, we are background figures; we are not the main characters. I think it's best if, when the game ends, people think, "Oh, who was the referee today?"

──I see. We've entered an era where the path to the B.League is opening up for good university players. I think some people might be underestimating it, thinking, "I could even go to B2." How does student basketball look to you?

Kato

It's definitely a good thing for Japanese basketball that good players go into environments where they can concentrate on basketball, but when considering a player's second career, I don't think easily deciding on a path like "Well, then basketball" is always a positive.

On the other hand, if everyone says, "My life is important, so I won't play in the top league," that would be sad for those involved in basketball.

Personally, the few years I spent working at a bank as a professional and learning various things there have become a very large asset as the base of my life. No matter what kind of work you do in the world, the flow of money follows you.

Both of my parents were former All-Japan basketball players, and I think they showed me their own struggles in a sense while presenting the bank as an option for me. Of course, my parents gave me advice on job hunting, but more than that, they showed me through their actions what kind of career path an All-Japan player takes after retirement.

On top of that, it might be that I chose basketball as my life plan.

What Is a Professional Referee?

──In actually doing refereeing, what kind of sense is necessary?

Kato

I think anyone can reach a certain point—domestically, the level of officiating in the B.League—as long as they have the passion. The JBA provides guidelines, and since it's a world where you can see a lot of video, you can study refereeing based on that.

From there, becoming a top referee or being active overseas raises the hurdle a bit, but I think the most important thing is how much time you are willing to devote to basketball. I'm currently in the middle of trying to see how far I can go as a referee, even though I was disappointing as a player at Ohori and Keio. I believe that if you make an effort, anyone should be able to reach a certain level.

──So it shouldn't be that "it has to be that person as the referee."

Kato

That's right. So, in a way, it should be systematized. This time, I am walking a path as a professional referee, which didn't exist before, but I don't think I should be special in the future.

Unless people like this become the norm, we can't say that Japanese basketball has improved.

──But still, if the visible result of "Kato signed a professional contract" didn't exist, no one would make the effort to watch several game videos a day, sacrificing sleep after coming home from work. In that sense, I think taking this visible step is very significant. Finally, could you give a word to middle and high school students who might become interested in being a basketball referee because you turned this page?

Kato

I might say, "There are 13 people who can stand on the court, not 10." If the B.League gets even more exciting domestically, you can stand on the court in front of 10,000 or 20,000 spectators.

If you face basketball with all your might as a player in middle and high school, and if by any chance that path is cut off but you still love basketball, it's too early to give up. The path of a referee is just as attractive as being a player and is a job worth pouring your passion into.

If I could stand on the court in the future with a kid who says, "I started refereeing after seeing Mr. Kato become a professional back then," that would be wonderful.

──The fact that a path that never existed before has opened up here means we can say a new profession has been born, so I think it's a truly massive and wonderful breakthrough.

Thank you very much for today.

*Affiliations and titles are as of the time of publication.