Keio University

KREVA: Exploring the Possibilities of the Japanese Language Through Rap

Participant Profile

  • KREVA

    Other : RapperOther : ArtistFaculty of Environment and Information Studies Graduate

    Keio University alumni (2000 Faculty of Environment and Information Studies). Since his debut in 1997, he has been a leader in Japanese hip-hop. On June 18, he celebrated the 20th anniversary of his solo debut, with various actions planned.

    KREVA

    Other : RapperOther : ArtistFaculty of Environment and Information Studies Graduate

    Keio University alumni (2000 Faculty of Environment and Information Studies). Since his debut in 1997, he has been a leader in Japanese hip-hop. On June 18, he celebrated the 20th anniversary of his solo debut, with various actions planned.

  • Interviewer: Shigeto Kawahara

    Research Centers and Institutes Professor, The Keio Institute of Cultural and Linguistic Studies

    Interviewer: Shigeto Kawahara

    Research Centers and Institutes Professor, The Keio Institute of Cultural and Linguistic Studies

2024/07/12

What Started the Rap Journey

──KREVA, you debuted as a rapper while still a student at the Faculty of Environment and Information Studies and have continued your activities for over 25 years. What was the catalyst for you to start rapping?

KREVA

It was triggered by the dance boom when I was in my second year of junior high school. I saw a video of an artist named Bobby Brown, thought the music was "cool," and started getting interested. I started with dancing, and then began rapping when a friend got some DJ equipment.

──Were you rapping in Japanese from the very beginning?

KREVA

Yes. When we started rapping, senior groups in the Japanese rap scene like Rhymester had already released records.

──Because I analyze rap rhymes from a linguistic perspective, I previously had a dialogue with Mummy-D from Rhymester, and at that time, we tried to categorize Japanese rap into generations. If we consider Seiko Ito and others as the first generation and Rhymester as the second, then KREVA and your peers would be the third generation.

KREVA

That's right. The members of Rhymester were all from Waseda, and I first met them when I was a student at Keio. While in school, I formed a group called "BY PHAR THE DOPEST" and made my record debut in 1997. Around that time, I started doing freestyle rap, and among my peers, I apparently gained a reputation as someone who was good at it.

──KREVA's name spread as a master of freestyle at the hip-hop festival "B-BOY PARK," which started in 1997. It has become legendary how you became the first champion of the MC Battle, where rappers compete in freestyle, and then went on to win three consecutive titles.

KREVA

The first MC Battle at B-BOY PARK was held two years later, in 1999. Until then, it was still rare in hip-hop culture to sign with a record company, so showing your presence through freestyle was an effective way to emerge as a rapper. So, I would go to club events and grab the mic during the times when walk-in performances were allowed.

──The time period known as the "open mic."

KREVA

Exactly. Events always had an open mic time, and there was this heat where it felt like "if you're a rapper and you don't perform, you lose." I honed my rap skills in those places. When I heard there would be a freestyle competition in 1999, I thought I could finally perform on a big stage.

Keeping the Word Drawers Half-Open

──Rap has an aspect of competing in the skill of "rhyming." Your rap has rhymes that are easy to understand, yet the word choices are unexpected and interesting. How did you build this style?

KREVA

Beyond just rhyming clearly, I also pursue the fun of developing lyrics through word rearrangement. For example, flipping "KREVA" to "BAREKU" to create a new word and then rhyming from there. I used to test these kinds of word experiments night after night in "grassroots battles" at clubs.

──I think the technique of rhyming spontaneously, rather than using pre-prepared lyrics, is not easy. You instantly incorporate information like the opponent's clothing—things that couldn't be woven into lyrics beforehand—into your rap to imply it's improvised. These ideas are also interesting.

KREVA

The reason I started incorporating situational elements like the opponent's appearance was because opponents would bring in lyric sheets they had written beforehand. Rather than calling that a rule violation, I thought the crowd would get more excited if I defeated them with a performance that was clearly improvised.

──So it was a performance meant to show off (and captivate) rather than just for the sake of winning.

KREVA

Yes. Even in freestyle competitions, I would appear in full camouflage gear to liven things up as entertainment. Enjoying it was always the first priority over fighting.

──Do you memorize freestyle lyrics that you've written down once, or do you assemble them completely in your head?

KREVA

Freestyle is truly improvised. It's like instantly assembling rhymes in my head and putting them out on the rhythm. In the movie "Spirited Away," there's a character named "Kamaji" with many long arms who takes medicinal herbs out of many drawers. I train to keep all my word drawers half-open like that.

If you expose yourself to many words and have a rough idea of where the word drawers are, they start to open in a chain reaction. That kind of skill can be acquired through training to some extent.

──Your rap makes people think you're a natural genius, but it's the result of training.

KREVA

It's often said there are two types of geniuses, right? The true genius, and the type of genius who doesn't consider effort to be effort. Setting aside whether I'm a genius, I'm the latter. I've never thought of rap practice as effort. During my time at Shonan Fujisawa Campus (SFC), it took me two and a half hours one way to commute, and I would practice rhyming while looking at the hanging advertisements in the train.

Even with university entrance exams, some people get into Keio easily, while others study thoroughly. In my case, I studied a lot, but it wasn't a burden. I might be the "genuinely insensitive" type who doesn't find the steps toward what I want to do or my goals to be painful.

Applying to SFC to Show Up a Classmate

──What was the reason you chose Keio?

KREVA

When I was in my second year of high school, a classmate said to me, "You haven't started studying for exams yet? There's no way you can get into university at that level." That annoyed me, so I looked up university rankings and found Keio's Faculty of Policy Management and Faculty of Environment and Information Studies at the top of the difficulty list. I thought, "Alright, I'll pass the exams here and show him," and I studied intensely.

As a result, I passed the Faculty of Environment and Information Studies, and he passed Waseda, and we shook hands and went our separate ways (laughs). I only learned about the SFC AO admission system much later. If I had known about it, I might have applied with freestyle rap.

──What kind of things did you study at SFC?

KREVA

Since I had decided from the start to do music after graduation, I attended university diligently from my first year. At the time, Professor Masahiko Sato was teaching at SFC, and his lectures were just incredibly interesting. For example, the "Polinky" snacks for which Professor Sato handled the commercials. Hearing about the process of how that character was chosen from about 60 candidates down to three left a strong impression on me.

What I remember most is an assignment where we had to submit a report on a single postcard. Instead of researching a lot and writing a lot, he told us to express it on one postcard. The way to create headlines and summarize was different from a regular report assignment and was very stimulating.

During this time at SFC, Sergio Echigo also came as a physical education teacher. His sharp-tongued soccer commentary didn't have a great reputation, but when we played soccer together, he was incredibly good. I was overwhelmed by his overwhelming skill and realized his sharp tongue wasn't just for show (laughs).

──Those classes don't sound very university-like (laughs).

KREVA

My classmates also felt like a small, elite group. There were relatively many graduates from Keio Senior High School, and everyone had a spirit of trying to do something interesting. While attending university, I continued the rap I had started in high school and released my first record in my second year.

──Shortly after your debut, you also started activities with KICK THE CAN CREW, formed by three rappers, and eventually your name became known nationwide, including appearing on the Kohaku Uta Gassen. How was this group formed?

KREVA

Someone who heard my previously released music invited me to a recording. I reached out to members I was performing with at rap events at the time and suggested we make a song with the theme of "Kan-keri" (kick the can). From there, people around us started calling us "the kick the can people," which is the origin of the group name "KICK THE CAN CREW (hereafter, Kick)."

──I'd also like to ask from a linguistic perspective. While 90s rap standardly rhymed on a word-by-word basis, Kick rhymed with longer phrases and had great originality.

KREVA

That's true. Especially LITTLE, a member of Kick, raps by aligning the rhythm perfectly when broken down into vowels, in a homophonic way. In contrast, I do what I call "forcing it"—for example, finding words that sound similar, like a combination of English and Japanese, and trying to make them sound like the same rhyme through the power of rap.

──I was very shocked when I first heard Kick's signature song "Itsunaro-ba." In the lyrics, "Itsunaro-ba" rhymes with "(tsugi no kisetsu ga) mitsukarou ga." This is exactly a combination of English and Japanese.

KREVA

Yes. "Itsunaro-ba" is a song with a summer theme, and the origin of the title is "It's not over," conveying the meaning that "summer isn't over." I used an English-like kana notation for this pronunciation, similar to how "What time is it now" sounds like "Hotta imo ijiru na." Probably "Itsunaro-ba" is easier for native speakers to understand than saying "It's not over." I thought this kind of fluctuation was interesting as Japanese and made it the song title.

What is Lecture-style Entertainment?

──In April and May of this year, you held "KREVA CLASS [New Rap Classroom]" billed as "lecture-style entertainment." What specifically is "lecture-style"?

KREVA

"KREVA CLASS" is written and directed by Kentaro Kobayashi, and it's basically a comedy skit throughout. KREVA, in the role of a teacher, gives a lecture on stage about the history of rap rhyming and turntables (record players). It's a stage where this play functions as a single school.

I've asked Kentaro to direct commercials for Kick before, and conversely, I've appeared in skits on the NHK program "Kentaro Kobayashi TV." Actually, I've been to almost all the plays Kentaro has directed. My desire to create a stage together with Kentaro, whom I respect so much, grew, and it finally came true this year.

──You give the impression of a "person who can do anything," being involved not only in rap and DJ performances but also in composition and acting. Why was it a comedy skit?

KREVA

Because I wanted to expand the range of stages I can stand on, beyond just doing live shows at live houses and halls. "KREVA CLASS" performed at the Kanagawa Arts Theatre in April, which is an unusual venue for a rapper's event. However, I felt that with Kentaro, there must be a form of performance possible even at an arts theater, and I had a desire within myself to pursue enjoying the Japanese language as an artist.

──Speaking of rap lessons, I'm reminded of the 2008 song "Akasatanahamayarawawon." It was a song that sang "this is what rhyming is" in a way that was easy to understand, as if it were being conveyed to a kindergartner.

KREVA

Yes. Periods where I want to make such easy-to-understand songs come around regularly. But actually, doing something that is easy for everyone to understand in a cool way is very difficult.

──Who do you imagine when you say "everyone"?

KREVA

People who have no interest in rap at all. While being allowed to stand on various stages, there have been times when people thought, "Who is KREVA?" Each time, I've tried to choose words and vocalizations that reach even those who don't know rap.

In "KREVA CLASS" as well, Kentaro pointed out a lot of my speaking habits, such as rap flow and how to add dynamics. For example, when saying "...dayone," he told me to leave the mouth shape of the final "ne" so that even the person in the very back seat of the theater could understand. I received detailed guidance that only a professional stage director could provide, and I learned a lot.

Kentaro is also someone who is good at rhyming with homophones, and he wrote almost all the lines for "KREVA CLASS." Many rhyming lines appear in the script. I feel a commonality with Kentaro in exploring the use of the Japanese language, but I also feel he has things I don't.

I've incorporated skit-like elements into my live shows before, but this time, by being taught by a professional who does it for a living—such as how to take pauses and how to utter words—it became something completely different. As a result of these interactions, I believe we were able to create a serious stage at a level far higher than just a rapper trying out comedy.

Don't Leave Behind Feelings of Not Having Done Something

──Keio has many students with a strong interest in language and students who want to enter the entertainment industry. Do you have a message for them?

KREVA

While you're a student, things like writing papers or doing research might seem unrelated to what you want to do. But I think you should do as much as possible of the "things you can do if you try." This is because you really don't know how these things will connect in the future.

That's because when I was given an assignment to create video and music as a team using computers during my student days, even though my friends invited me, I used being busy with music activities as an excuse and didn't do it seriously. I still regret that a little bit today. I feel that if I had a mindset of being more actively involved with the university, I might be in a better position than I am now.

That might be unrelated to whether it's useful for my future, but the important thing is not to leave behind the feeling that you could have done it but didn't.

──I think you are already part of the veteran generation among rappers. What kind of image do you have for further maturing as an artist in the future?

KREVA

My awareness of wanting to get better at rap isn't that strong now or in the past. It's more like I keep doing it because I want to, and as a result, I'm improving.

On the other hand, in 2022, I produced a song called "ichiban" for King & Prince. At that time, the first song I submitted was sent back with the comment, "Please make it something more like KREVA..." What I realized then was that I'm probably better at producing myself than producing others. Since I always have the desire to stand on stage, I'll probably continue as a player as long as I feel that way.

──I look forward to your future success. Thank you very much.

(Recorded on May 9, 2024, at Mita Campus)

*Affiliations and titles are as of the time of publication.