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[Special Feature: Tokyo 2020 and Keio University] Special Interview with Ryota Yamagata: Looking Back on Tokyo 2020

Published: December 15, 2021

Participant Profile

  • Ryota Yamagata

    Track and Field AthleteFaculty of Policy Management Graduated

    2015 Faculty of Policy Management

    Ryota Yamagata

    Track and Field AthleteFaculty of Policy Management Graduated

    2015 Faculty of Policy Management

  • Interviewer: Takayuki Inami

    Research Centers and Institutes Full-time Lecturer, Institute of Physical Education

    Interviewer: Takayuki Inami

    Research Centers and Institutes Full-time Lecturer, Institute of Physical Education

Measuring Performance

—Today, I would like to ask Mr. Yamagata about this season, focusing on the Tokyo 2020 Games. First of all, how did you perceive the fact that the Olympics were postponed for a year due to COVID-19?

Yamagata

For me, I saw it as being given a chance in a sense. Of course, I had been working toward 2020, but since I had injuries, the one-year postponement increased the time I had to prepare, so there were positive aspects.

—It must have been a unique tournament, preparing while feeling an atmosphere from the world like, "Are they really going to hold the Olympics?" This was your third consecutive Olympic appearance, but did it feel different from the previous two in the sense that it was held in your home country?

Yamagata

The atmosphere was quite different. I think both the athletes and the general public were forced to think about the significance of sports. I felt a different atmosphere in the sense that it was a tournament held amidst such pros and cons.

—Until now, you had been conditioning on your own before competitions, but since February of this year, you have been working with Coach Daiki Takano, who is also a sprint coach for the Keio University Athletic Association Track and Field Club, and at the same time, you started taking various data about your own body in my laboratory (Sports Science Lab).

Yamagata

By starting to take data, I was able to become objective. It was good in the sense that I could track the numbers one by one. I had always wanted to increase my muscle mass, and I can see accurately whether it is actually increasing. I can see not only muscle mass but also things like fat mass.

Professor Inami also taught me how to read the numbers for body composition analysis, focusing on things like protein content, and taught me how to increase those numbers and the correlation between those numbers and muscle mass, which allowed me to adjust the training load. There were many things I could apply to my actual training.

—Even if you aren't injured, there are always parts of your body you worry about before a competition. How does it feel to actually look inside your own body using an ultrasound device that is also used for pregnant women to look at muscles? When you're a little tired, the muscles show up in a different color than usual, don't they?

Yamagata

I had looked at it before when I was injured, so it didn't feel particularly strange. If there's a problem area, I feel more relieved if it shows up properly.

Breaking the Japanese Record

—Having built your body with that kind of slightly different conditioning, you set a Japanese record (9.95 seconds, Fuse Sprint in Tottori City) on June 6. What was it like to break the 10-second barrier?

Yamagata

My running itself changed. Both the training content and the approach itself changed in various ways. I had been stuck for three years since setting my personal best of 10.00 in 2018, so I always thought I had to change something. However, I didn't really know specifically how to change it, and I also had injuries.

But thanks to the new initiatives this year, my running itself changed significantly, and a sense of running that I've never had before was born. In that context, I set a personal best for the first time in three years, so of course I'm happy with the record, but the feeling of "breaking out of my shell" was very significant for me.

—Like a breakthrough. When you get a good record, do you realize it after finishing and seeing the time? Or do you feel like "I can do this" while you're running?

Yamagata

The feeling of running from the day before was also good. So, I had a feeling that I could break the Olympic qualifying standard (10.05 seconds). When I ran one heat, even though the feeling of the race wasn't that good, I clocked 10.01, so even with the wind assist, I thought, "With this feeling, I might go into the 9-second range in the final."

However, in the final, I went in without thinking too much about the record. Normally, I think I would have been more conscious of the 9-second range, but when I devoted myself to the competition, the record came. It's interesting.

—I think there are various pressures at a competition. Do you have a routine before you start?

Yamagata

I don't have a routine. I think of not having one as my routine, and I leave it undecided. On the contrary, I think deciding on one becomes a cause for anxiety, or rather, I think I would be shaken if I couldn't do it, so I try not to think about it too much.

—Did you come to think that way after many twists and turns?

Yamagata

No, it's been that way for a long time. I don't like things that don't have much basis, and I think it's important to demonstrate my usual strength.

The ground you stand on is different for each competition, and the pressure is different, so if you just keep the movements the same, I think it's a bit simplistic to expect your feelings to be in order.

—I see. Track and field has environmental differences due to wind and rain, but is it a sport where it's easy to get results when conditions are good?

Yamagata

That's right. I want to pursue the idea that records will come as long as I am prepared in a way that suits me at that time, rather than through a routine.

The Japan Championships that Decided the Olympics

—After setting the Japanese record, it was inevitable that attention would be focused on you. Was there considerable pressure at the Japan Championships (June 25, Osaka), which also served as the Olympic trials?

Yamagata

You become conscious of it. I wasn't in good shape when I entered the venue for the Japan Championships. Even so, at first, I thought third place was secure, but when I actually ran one heat in the qualifiers, I felt I was in a pretty dangerous position. I felt like there were about three athletes faster than me with energy to spare, so I thought, "This might be bad," and it actually became a very tough battle.

—But as a result, you finished 3rd and your participation was decided. How did you feel at that time?

Yamagata

The main thing was relief. All of this was because I had set the Japanese record once in June.

But looking back, grabbing the ticket to the Olympics itself was, it might be an exaggeration to call it a miracle, but I think I was blessed with the opportunity. This season had an extremely tight schedule, and I think I've come from a pretty precarious state.

Since I also had injuries, I was prepared to accept it even if I couldn't participate halfway through. Thinking about that, I have to think that I am grateful and happy to have slipped into third place and won the right to represent Japan. To be honest, I felt stiff with nerves on the day.

—I also felt like one of my own family members was running, so I couldn't really look at the TV screen (laughs).

Being Chosen as Captain of the Japanese Delegation

—How was it when the talk of becoming the captain of the Japanese delegation first came up?

Yamagata

No, I thought about declining (laughs). Of course, I thought they would be considerate in various ways so as not to interfere with the competition, but it's a big responsibility to carry, so I was troubled.

—Even so, did you have any special feelings that made you accept it?

Yamagata

I think it's because I'm a person in the position of doing sports, but I really think it was good that we could have the Olympics in Tokyo this time.

Amidst various opinions during the COVID-19 pandemic, I reached the conclusion that "No, it's still worth doing." And I also wanted to convey that meaning through my attitude toward the competition. I wanted to communicate something. I thought it would be a very symbolic Olympics for conveying the significance of sports.

In the end, it took the form of being held, but in the midst of not knowing what would happen, I thought the value of the Olympics lay precisely in the attitude of moving forward with courage. I understand that this is a story built on various sacrifices, so I can't say it loudly, but...

We must not stop something, but be proactive about moving forward. If so, I thought it would be good if people could feel me playing as hard as I can.

—So you accepted the captaincy with those thoughts. Coincidentally, Takashi Ono, who served as captain during the previous 1964 Tokyo Games, was also a Keio University alumni. It feels like some kind of fate that Keio-related people were captains for both Games held in Tokyo.

Yamagata

I feel a connection. I'm glad I was able to follow in my senior's footsteps.

Ultimately, the fact that I accepted the captaincy was also because I had a feeling that I wanted the world to become a better place, although it's an exaggeration to say I'm carrying sports on my shoulders in my own way. I sometimes think that perhaps Senior Ono felt the same way.

—Watching the athletes' oath at the opening ceremony on TV, I could see that you were nervous. But there's no way you wouldn't be nervous (laughs).

Yamagata

I was nervous (laughs).

—Is that still the case even without an audience?

Yamagata

Yes. You shouldn't think about things at a time like that. Because the more you think about how people all over the world are watching, or that the Emperor is there, the more nervous you get. But actually, I was calmer than during the rehearsal. To be honest, I was glad it went well.

—It was a splendid athletes' oath.

Yamagata

It was difficult to synchronize with Kasumi Ishikawa. We only had one rehearsal the day before. However, Ms. Ishikawa was in the bubble at the Athletes' Village, but at that time I hadn't entered the Athletes' Village yet and was a person outside the bubble, so I couldn't have contact with her, and our waiting rooms were separate.

We had to say the words together, but you can't say "Ready, go" or anything (laughs). When we had a little time, I went behind the scenes and practiced a few times.

Looking Back on the Olympic Competition

—Looking back on the Olympics, how do you perceive your own competition?

Yamagata

For me, both the individual and the relay ended in disappointing results. However, for the Japanese delegation as a whole, there were many medalists, and I think there was a sense of the beauty of the moment when past efforts bore fruit and the excitement of the stories in each sport.

And while the excitement of "Wow, it's a medal!" is part of the appeal of sports, it's a fact that if there's a winner, there are always more than twice as many losers there. I think we were attracting a lot of attention, especially in the relay, with people thinking "They might get a gold medal." But the moment the baton wasn't passed is also one side of sports. I think sports is about including those parts, rather than just showing the good parts.

I might not have been able to meet expectations. I received messages saying "I was so frustrated I cried," which really stung. I also received critical opinions. But I also thought that it "stung" enough that they felt compelled to send a message.

To be honest, we also made as much preparation as possible. I'm not saying it's okay because we showed our attitude, but I do think it led to conveying one of the appealing aspects of sports.

—Turning critical opinions into strength. Did it become a driving force for your desire to take on new challenges?

Yamagata

Yes. Anyway, as long as I'm active, I want to take everything positively. I have to turn frustration into energy so that I can say "I am who I am today because of that experience," so I will move forward by switching my mindset.

From Hiyoshi to the World Again

—The number of domestic competitions is being narrowed down again this year, but how do you intend to approach the next step?

Yamagata

I think my big motivation lies in my own daily growth, that is, being able to understand things I didn't understand or being able to do things I couldn't do.

So, there are things I can do even if there are no competitions. Right now, I have a bad knee, and I'm practicing while always being conscious of what is necessary to solve that and what kind of future awaits beyond that solution. I want to spend each day importantly in that way.

—Have you had that kind of thinking since you were a student, not just now that you're at the level of a top athlete?

Yamagata

It's been that way all along. Even for students, if they get injured it's painful, but if they can think of it as "fun" including that, I think it becomes much easier.

I think it's very stifling to think that you're not moving forward if you're not getting results. Even if you're not getting results, you "change," don't you? If I get injured, I can do movements I couldn't do before. During periods when I can't run, I enjoy the changes by doing things I haven't done before, like weight training. I hope people can focus on the fact that they are growing day by day.

—That's great. I think students who read this article will be very encouraged. What are your thoughts on the Hiyoshi track and field stadium where you practice every day?

Yamagata

For me, I don't think there's a place as easy to access and easy to use, including the track and facilities, as Hiyoshi. There's also the benefit of being able to take measurements at the Institute of Physical Education.

—You can measure changes immediately after practice. Is your recognition that Hiyoshi is your home ground?

Yamagata

That's right. I've thought about going to the NTC (National Training Center), but I still like Hiyoshi.

The track is also easy to run on. The ground is hard, so I'm grateful that I can get speed. After all, getting speed is a very important thing for track and field athletes that puts a load on the body. The wind also blows in a relatively constant direction, so I can use that to increase or suppress training intensity. There's also a strength training facility for the track and field club, so there are many benefits to practicing here. I sometimes feel sorry that I might be getting in the way of the active students.

—But the students are watching closely. They think, "Mr. Yamagata is doing it this way. I should think about it too." I think it's a considerable positive stimulus.

Yamagata

The track and field club dormitory is on the other side of Mamushidani, and I still stay there sometimes. While talking with the students. I want to continue to value those kinds of things.

—It's wonderful that you have those kinds of interactions. Right now, it feels like you're working hard toward the next step while properly healing your knee and adjusting your condition.

Yamagata

That's right. Next year, and in three years, there are the World Athletics Championships and the Paris Olympics. It'll be here in no time, so I'll do my best.

—I look forward to your future success. Thank you very much for today.

(Recorded on September 29, 2021, at the Hiyoshi Track and Field Stadium)

*Affiliations and titles are as of the time of publication.